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Genesis 6:4 mentions "mighty men of old." Perhaps Hercules, Perseus and many other legendary figures were in fact Nephilim.Ramblinman wrote:...I wonder if Goliath and kin had Nephiliim blood??...
jochanaan wrote:Genesis 6:4 mentions "mighty men of old." Perhaps Hercules, Perseus and many other legendary figures were in fact Nephilim.Ramblinman wrote:...I wonder if Goliath and kin had Nephiliim blood??...
Hmmm...Now I just started wondering about Neanderthals and others. Maybe they were Nephilim...?
bn2bnude wrote:Why???
If the flood actually happened, they were all destroyed.
OzTech wrote:So this strip is pretty old now but perhaps I can add a scrap more info on the matter the subject of 'Sons of God' from something I noticed while reading the early part of Genesis.
In Gen 4: 16 it reads "And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden." From this we can determine that even though Adam and Eve had sinned and been, for their own salvation, kicked out of the garden and away from the Tree of Life they were still within the presence of God... probably near to where the Angels stood with the flaming sword preventing them from entering. I would conclude, therefore, that when Cain left and went to the land of Nod he became source of the daughters of men while those of Adam's family that remained near the garden and in the presence of God would, logically, be identified as the Sons of God.
OzTech wrote:By the way Ramblin, the flood would had been every bit of land where we now find fossils and, probably, coal. Whenever I have been spear fishing (or even just snorkelling, I've never seen a dead fish just laying on the bottom of the sea... or even on the beach... just waiting to be covered by sand. Also... never seen fish holding a funeral service for a fallen comrade. When ever I've been out hiking in the bush I do not find dead roos or wombats just waiting to be covered over by leaves and other forms of dirt. Other predators always clean up the remains and the bones get scattered over a large area. Fossils can really only be the result of some massive event where lots of water and soil has been chucked around. Same comes for the coal seams where trees have been ripped up washed into some spot altogether and then covered over by more stuff. I am inclined to think the flood was global. I became a Christian because the scientific assumptions about evolution started to fall apart and the physical evidence of a global flood was just one more point to support the authenticity of the Bible.
OzTech wrote:As for Angels... from my studies it appears (to me anyway) that God only created 3 companies of angels that were probably under the leadership of the Archangels Michael, Gabriel and Lucifer. Of these Lucifer took his third to earth and the other two thirds remained to do the will of God. My theory... and I'm open to any other better interpretations... is that these three Archangels originally answered to the Father, the Spirit and the Son i.e. Michael led his angels into battle at the command of the Father, Gabriel's mob delivered the words of God the Holy Spirit and Lucifer... well... I'm not sure what he would have been responsible for other than being involved with the creation... i.e. when the Morning Stars sang together (both Jesus and Lucifer have links to the title of Morning Star or Day Star). Under this conjecture I would say that it is unlikely that there was a second incarnation of angels to mess around with people upon the earth.
OzTech wrote:When Noah took the animals into the ark he was instructed to take to of their kind. In this all he would be required would be to take two dogs, two horses etc and, within the genomic pattern of these would be the full range of every other breed of whatever animal it was. My father use to breed budgerigars. From green and yellow, blue and white birds he got a red one... never seen one since but there it was... all part of the coding within the genes of the things. I would think that the same would be the source of the Nephalim. Even today you occasionally get some individual who grows excessively tall and the medical people have found, I think, some genetic link to that. It would be linked to the growth hormone that, if being overly active, would cause the individual to grow more than is normal the same as if, when it is under active, you get someone who does not grow much taller than a child. (I personally know one person that had issues here and is a perfectly formed individual but no taller than about 4 foot).
Maverick wrote:I read a book last year that proposed the Cro-Magnons as fallen angels in human form and Neanderthals as the Nephilim (angelic-human hybrids). The Cro-Magnons appeared to be a superhuman race, almost like Homo sapiens 2.0. The Neanderthals possessed superhuman strength and ability but don't appear to have had the "improved" stature of Cro-Magnon men, lending credence to the idea of a hybrid race.
Maverick wrote:A lot of the ideas and opinions on Nephilim as being some kind of hybrid being stem from the Book of Enoch (which appears to have been quoted in Jude and perhaps elsewhere, maybe 2 Peter?). And, as others have mentioned, some theorists have tied the Nephilim of the Bible in with the Titans of Greek mythology and the Flood in with a similar story in The Epic of Gilgamesh.
Maverick wrote:I've read (can't remember where) one theory stating that Satan knew the only way for God to redeem humanity was by being born in the flesh Himself, i.e. as Jesus, and if he (Satan) could corrupt the seed of man through hybridization, then humanity would be at a complete loss. Gen. 6:9, mentioning Noah being perfect in his generations, could to support this, as if to say that he were genetically perfect in a genetically-corrupt world--because we all know that he was born a sinner like the rest of Adam's progeny.
Maverick wrote:If the Nephilim are/were hybrid beings, where does a hybrid soul or spirit go when the body dies? I've read that some theorists distinguish between demons and evil spirits--and that the idea of "limbo" could come from the fact that a non-human soul or spirit can't go to Heaven or Hell, and instead continues to exist temporally in the "material world." These folks speculate that these spirits explain a lot of paranormal phenomena we witness today, such as UFOs seen on the ISS live-stream cameras before the feed is cut because of "technical difficulties".
Maverick wrote:I tend to believe that myths, legends, and even lowercase gods have their roots in what was at one time reality. I think this stuff is fascinating, and I know one day we will all know the truth. Until then, I strive to keep my eyes focused on the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
natman wrote:Since angels are non-corporeal beings, I HIGHLY doubt that they have anything to do with Nephalim.
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