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bn2bnude wrote:15 years ago I was part of a worship team that would help with hymns, some folk style, and some rock style.
bn2bnude wrote:I sense from some of your text, we'll be on opposite ends of that sort of discussion.
bn2bnude wrote: One of which was what we call "worship" and shove into a specific part of a service is only a part of worship. Some people worship through the music, some through the message. Romans 12:1&2 talks about us offering our bodies which is our "spiritual service of worship".
Petros wrote:And the Robinsons support Sunny Acres Community Church and are audible during worship, while the Robertsons go around from church to church with the lantern they borrowed off Diogenes looking for an honest choir and have not found one yet. And I suspect this pattern holds while the world does.
nakedpreacher wrote:The litmus test was that every song whether chorus or hymn had to contain significant truth (Gods love, holiness and grace; Christ's sacrifice; our sojourn; hope of Heaven, etc. (the Gaithers are wonderful but I refuse to sing "something about that name" because it basically says nothing significant)). I once heard Alistair Begg describe how people complain about song choice, "we sang too many hymns, We sang too many choruses" (different people describing the same service). He said, "Who gives a rip if you enjoyed it, did God enjoy it?"
All that to say this, Any church music must teach or remind us of what we know about God (his character, his attributes, his sacrifice, his grace), it must focus our attention upon his presence and away from ourselves, and it must be led (not performed) in such a way that the congregation has the most chance of connecting with those truths. We learn best when we hear and say (sing) the truth that we wish to retain. Song choice, style, and leading should all serve that purpose.
nakedpreacher wrote:Petros wrote:And the Robinsons support Sunny Acres Community Church and are audible during worship, while the Robertsons go around from church to church with the lantern they borrowed off Diogenes looking for an honest choir and have not found one yet. And I suspect this pattern holds while the world does.
Alas Petros, you are too clever to be understood. I had to look it up, but then...
nakedpreacher wrote: All that to say this, Any church music must teach or remind us of what we know about God (his character, his attributes, his sacrifice, his grace), it must focus our attention upon his presence and away from ourselves, and it must be led (not performed) in such a way that the congregation has the most chance of connecting with those truths. We learn best when we hear and say (sing) the truth that we wish to retain. Song choice, style, and leading should all serve that purpose.
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That is a sort of pestering God to try to get his attention or a sort of "paryer of works" in which one tries to impress or sway God with how many times we have said something in prayer.In Chapter 6, quoting, Jesus, Matthew wrote:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Kinda like 'good-bye' originated from 'God be with ye.'
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