For once a"nude beach" website that isn't pornography

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Re: For once a"nude beach" website that isn't pornography

Postby KalosSoma » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:13 am

Bare_Truth wrote:"And when it was created the site was good and useful, and the people in the images were naked and not ashamed. Now the porn trolls were more insidious and corrupt more than any other the posters on the site, and the trolls said "I like this image, come and see all my other images. They will not surely corrupt your mind and how you look upon your fellow naturists and lead you to destruction in lust."

Good point. It's depressing to think about how often this happens, whether it's on blogs or forums or Facebook -- a few spoil it for the many.
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Re: For once a"nude beach" website that isn't pornography

Postby jochanaan » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:54 pm

KalosSoma wrote:I didn't mean to spark a debate or anything - I've just been trying to sort this photo issue out for myself, and I'm thankful that CNV provides a safe place to do that.

It can be a hard thing to sort out, especially when "artistic" nudity is added to the discussion. (Are you familiar with nudity in the visual arts? I was, even before I began to consider nudism; that may have made it easier for me to make the leap to my current total acceptance of nudity in any situation.)

As for me, before I ever went to a nudist event, I began to search for photos showing non-erotic nudity, that is, nudity that at least wasn't showing any sexual activity. I did it daily, and I was often nude myself while doing so. But I set one rule for myself: If I became aroused, I simply let it happen. In particular, I did not masturbate afterwards. (I don't think masturbation is always wrong, but in this case it would have fed a mindset instead of breaking it.) That was how I broke the societal conditioning.

I have also posed nude for a professional photographer who is also a nudist. It was a great experience, and one I highly recommend! And she was a true professional; her directions were precise and clear, and the photographs are just beautiful. (I don't own the copyright on them, or I'd post a few.)
KalosSoma wrote:This may be another topic, but for those of you who have been in social-nudity venues, whether resorts, beaches or home gatherings, what seems to be the general rule on photography? I'd be wary of going into a situation where people were going around casually snapping photos. I assume the rule is to ask permission of the person you're photographing before you do so (or after the fact, if you discover you've inadvertently included someone you didn't ask in advance). But it also seems like it would be hard to police -- but vitally important, since one photo can ruin a person's life (especially on the Internet).
The general rule is: Don't do it! :shock: Most resorts and other venues that I know of have strict policies against attendees taking photographs. Any photos taken at these resorts are by the owners or managers, so they can keep control of distribution. I suppose that if one is a professional photographer, one can get approval, but you'd better go through the right channels.
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Re: For once a"nude beach" website that isn't pornography

Postby jjsledge » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:29 am

At the nude 5ks I frequent there is a group shot of all that want to be in the photo. All participants must sign a release. These photos are for sale to anyone IN the photos.

Releases were also required for the "Skinny Dip" record attempt.

Photos in our home group are for our photo album and can be sent to the participants of that meeting.

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Re: For once a"nude beach" website that isn't pornography

Postby KalosSoma » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:53 pm

jochanaan wrote:It can be a hard thing to sort out, especially when "artistic" nudity is added to the discussion. (Are you familiar with nudity in the visual arts? I was, even before I began to consider nudism; that may have made it easier for me to make the leap to my current total acceptance of nudity in any situation.)

I'll say. For one thing, the line between "boudoir" photography -- which is intended to be provocative/sexual and, as such, IMHO, should be kept between husband and wife, and "fine art" nude or semi-nude photography, which I think can be OK (and even beneficial/edifying) for public display, can be a fine and fuzzy one. Reminds me of the Supreme Court justice (Stewart?) who couldn't define porn but he knew it when he saw it.
jochanaan wrote:Most resorts and other venues that I know of have strict policies against attendees taking photographs.

This is good to know, and I hope it is, indeed, common practice.
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Re: For once a"nude beach" website that isn't pornography

Postby jochanaan » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:33 pm

KalosSoma wrote:...For one thing, the line between "boudoir" photography -- which is intended to be provocative/sexual and, as such, IMHO, should be kept between husband and wife, and "fine art" nude or semi-nude photography, which I think can be OK (and even beneficial/edifying) for public display, can be a fine and fuzzy one...
True; but there are lots of good photos of nudity that don't come anywhere that line. A few of them are in our galleries here; there are lots more in the photo galleries at naturist-christians.org . 8)
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Re: For once a"nude beach" website that isn't pornography

Postby KalosSoma » Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:11 am

jochanaan wrote:...there are lots of good photos of nudity that don't come anywhere that line.

You know, what would be neat (and ultimately maybe pretty helpful to the "cause") is if some very well-known photographer, someone known in popular culture beyond the photography community -- someone like Annie Leibovitz is the only one coming to mind right now -- would do a project on "everyday" nudity, rather than provocative or artsy nudity?

Or even better, if a group of photographers would get together and do something like the "Day in the Life of America" photojournalism project, showing non-sexual everyday nudity -- whether in resorts/camps, on beaches, in homes, individuals, families, groups -- many different situations and aspects. "A Nude Day in the Life of America?" I like it! :-)
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Re: For once a"nude beach" website that isn't pornography

Postby natman » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:06 pm

That might be a good idea. There must be some way for us to put a bug in some of the better journalistic photographers ears to entice them to take on such a project.
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Re: For once a"nude beach" website that isn't pornography

Postby JimShedd112 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:47 pm

I too like the idea KalosSoma. Unfortunately, I don't know anyone in the photographic realm to reach out to.

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Re: For once a"nude beach" website that isn't pornography

Postby ihaveel » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:42 pm

You may want to take down this thread. I just went to the referenced website and saw all kinds of porn being shown, both in the main pictures and various side photos. It may have been good once upon a time, but now it is obviously trash. There is another website on tumblr.com that advertises that it is not porn. But it is mostly only photos of guys, so may be directed more specifically to the gay community. If the person who polices this thread wants to have a look through it before posting this, it might be a good idea.

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Re: For once a"nude beach" website that isn't pornography

Postby Bare_Truth » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:55 am

ihaveel wrote:You may want to take down this thread. I just went to the referenced website and saw all kinds of porn being shown,....
I think you may be understating the case. I would qualify it as extremely and blatantly infested with gross porn. I can assure you that it was not even close to that gross so when this strip first was posted back in January

ihaveel wrote:..... There is another website on tumblr.com that advertises that it is not porn. .....
however it succubs to the problem that the comments contain links that are obvious by the grossness of the screen names of the posters.


ihaveel wrote:... may be directed more specifically to the gay community. It is called guyzbeach.tumblr.com.
I distinctly agree with your surmise. The bulk of the photos appear to fall into the category known as "crotch shots"

ihaveel wrote: If the person who polices this thread wants to have a look through it before posting this, it might be a good idea. ihaveel
I believe that the both mentioned links to the sites at tumbler be redacted, but this strip might well be left as a testimony and warning of how the porn perverts invade sites that might otherwise be ok.
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Re: For once a"nude beach" website that isn't pornography

Postby JimShedd112 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:31 am

I first looked at the link this morning. Yes, it is definitely loaded with links to pornographic sites throughout as you scroll down the page. What a shame. It, of course, helps to reinforce the idea of nudists as perverts to the uninitiated.

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Re: For once a"nude beach" website that isn't pornography

Postby ezduzit » Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:54 pm

Just porn ! :shock: got out of there as fast as I could
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Re: For once a"nude beach" website that isn't pornography

Postby Dave » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:17 pm

Apparently the site that was originally posted has changed and it is certainly not what an reasonable person could consider "naturist" related. I have removed the link in the original post.

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Re: For once a"nude beach" website that isn't pornography

Postby Jon-Marc » Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:41 pm

Since the link has been removed, I didn't get to see it.
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Re: For once a"nude beach" website that isn't pornography

Postby ihaveel » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:06 pm

Good move on removing this site. And good lessons gained.

Jon-Marc, be thankful you didn't see this site. And by the way, under your photo it says you live in Jacumba, CA. I thought you live in Florida now?

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