Overcoming the fear of being seen nude

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Re: Overcoming the fear of being seen nude

Postby Petros » Sun May 22, 2011 8:22 pm

Bare_Truth wrote:
Petros wrote:....
My expressions and postures and gestures are Greek - to just about everybody but the Greeks.

Petros,
My situation is very similar to what you describe, However my case is influenced by my scientific and technical interests.

My expressions and postures and gestures are Geek - to just about everybody but the Geeks. :wink:

that too, in my case, but as the son of two Classicists, nearly turned Classicist myself, I have certain obligations to my family.
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Re: Overcoming the fear of being seen nude

Postby Jon-Marc » Tue May 24, 2011 4:43 pm

You know, when I actually start a topic, it gets very few if any replies. However, I don't remember starting this one, and it's up to five pages. I think a moderator split it off from another topic where I must have gone off topic, but I never do that!
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Re: Overcoming the fear of being seen nude

Postby jochanaan » Wed May 25, 2011 12:50 am

As I've said before, Jon-Marc, you're good enough with words that sometimes, when you start a topic, there's nothing more that needs to be said. 8)
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Re: Overcoming the fear of being seen nude

Postby DaveT » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:42 am

Although the discussion is already 5 years long and a year since last post, I suppose I can add a comment. Interesting accounts of various experiences, and some not so far from my own, so a little of my own experience may be interesting as well.

I was born shy, in the extreme. I remember being taken to church when around 2 and feeling like trying to hide from everyone. Then when I was about 5 and would run around the house naked at bath time, my sister would pretend to be peeking and say "I see you" producing an early sense of shame at being naked. I think that is what developed in me to this day an automatic sudden unreasonable fear when ever I almost get caught that way. Along with the general association of nakedness with sin makes it hard to break out of such feelings. Although at around 13 with the development of puberty I started playing in the woods and creek naked at times just because it felt good. But on the other hand nowdays I get so used to working naked out in the woods, and wishing it were more socially acceptable, that I think it would be easy to step into it where it was acceptable. I wonder if my tendency to private nakedness was a rebellion against the other extreme?
Will try it eventually but will have to get a vehicle put together that I can get around in without wasting a lot of money, all I have now is a heavy duty 4x4 truck that gets 10 mpg. So I don't travel on my own much lately.


As far as communication with people. It can get complicated; As a personal example that's been going on here. There's been a neighbor lady coming over for a couple years and helping me do things, she's about the age of my mother, (70's) She was caring for her father until he passed at 94., and I or my brother would help with him frequently. Soon after he died she asked me what the possibility of marriage would be. I was surprised she was thinking along such lines and I told her I thought we were completely incompatible, since there is almost 30 years age difference and I had already had a few mild arguments with her and just dropped the subject seeing she was fixed in her not so wise opinion. (as well as incompatible in many other ways, including the fact that she is the ultra conservative long dress type, and is confirmed vegan, feels like it's a sin to eat an egg or drink some milk)
But then she started coming over, and acting like she was pursuing me. Making it obvious to others and yet she kept claiming it wasn't so. Over time I came to realize she was trying to read my thoughts and doing a lousy job of it. She was interpreting a causal look in her eyes as a sign of desire on my part. I have kind of determined that she's the type that has had so much unciviality in her family that she thinks someone is personally interested in her if they treat her civilly. But I treat everyone I meet that way. So I had to start intentionally not looking in her eyes to avoid her thinking I had desire for her. But then a few weeks ago she wanted to talk again and we went round an round on the relationship subject again, this time she ended up claiming I was the one who asked her if marriage was a possibility back then and she was the one who rejected it. I couldn't convince her otherwise so I quit trying after about three attempts. It's crazy. She completely twisted that one around backwards in her mind. Oh well! I'm glad that's settled even though it got settled a bit weird. But anyway she started staying home more and only comes over once or twice a week now to help in the garden a little.

As far as me and women go; here I am 46 and I've never had any serious relationships. Having been a shy kid, mostly home schooled, and then moving way out on an isolated farm. But as time goes on I feel the need of it more. After all God said "it is not good that man should dwell alone". I'm alone in my old motor home, but my brother and folks are here on the farm in other buildings. ( I'd have to build me a small house of some sort to handle company. with a sawmill, lots of trees, and lots of rocks, that could be done with just some work and not much money) But I do not trust my own judgment or anyone else's to make such a momentous life changing decision. The only one I trust is my Lord to make the right connection. Therefore I have requested of Him to not allow me to meet who I'm supposed to be matched with unless He does something to make it obvious to both of us that He's the one making the connection. I have a story about such a situation I'll have to tell sometime. -------RDT
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Re: Overcoming the fear of being seen nude

Postby Jon-Marc » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:17 pm

Well RDT, my opinion is that you haven't missed anything by not having a serious relationship with a woman. I've had two through marriage (I'm not counting the non-serious ones) and regret both of them.
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Re: Overcoming the fear of being seen nude

Postby jochanaan » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:51 pm

DaveT, if she twists things that way, she'd never make anyone a good wife! It's just as well there's no chance now. But, speaking from personal experience, it's better to be single all your life than to be married to the wrong woman. :cry:

However, there is nothing wrong with being close friends with women. In fact, I've come to believe it's something natural, just as it's natural to have men friends. And in my experience, the women who tend to go to naturist events make good friends, and clearly understand boundaries and common sense in friendship. 8)
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Re: Overcoming the fear of being seen nude

Postby Ramblinman » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:12 am

I know I am perpetuating this segue-way from the topic, but here goes:

I don't think Jon Marc is claiming that all women everywhere are evil and that no man should ever marry a woman.

But if through one's upbringing, he has weak skills in choosing a woman of good character and he repeatedly finds himself involved with women who are not right for him, or even worse, one or more of them was deceptive, then yes, it would suggest that from that point forward, he could not be faulted for being very, very reluctant to pursue married life once again.

Or... perhaps a man has a temperament that inclines him to be content with a quiet solitary home life. While the marriage of two godly people can be a blessing to the entire community, so can a single life, just in a different way.

A good church and a good naturist camp tend to attract people of good character, but there is the occasional fox in the henhouse.

I pray for discernment and godly wisdom on an ongoing basis. It is not a selfish prayer. The less of a fool I am, the more I can serve my brothers and sisters in Christ and our Lord himself.
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Re: Overcoming the fear of being seen nude

Postby Ramblinman » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:33 am

Now let me return to the original topic. It is an important one.

I am pleased with the progress I have made in overcoming much of the "never be seen naked" paranoia of my late childhood and early teens.

I take no credit. I had parents, though textile, who treated nudity as an uncommon, but normal part of daily life. As I got more active in high school, scouts and church, there were times of locker room and shower nudity and even one or two incidents of skinny dipping.

In college, I finally reached a point where I found myself skinny dipping with a female classmate in a secluded lake. We each were romantically attached to someone else, so the situation was only sensual without being sexual.

Over the course of a couple of years I had other college friends who were further along than I in enjoying social nudity and their good influence gradually weakened my resistance to it.

Eventually this journey led me to finally participate in my nearest family-friendly nudist camp. I am grateful to all who helped along the way.

Even if you do not feel prepared for social nudity, perhaps you have a bit of discomfort with it, or are even fearful at times, find true friends who both accept you as you are, but also encourage you to ongoing growth in every aspect of your character.

And it is amazing to see the confidence and joy in the second generation. If our kids grow up with this, what we struggle for years to achieve will be effortless for them. Just be sure that they have a strong ongoing example from you and your spouse and try your best to give them nude living on a regular basis, nudist friends. Maybe in the old days a family could go to a nudist resort for a few days once a year and keep their nudist family values intact. Now it takes more regular reinforcement to fight off the textile shame and lechery.
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Re: Overcoming the fear of being seen nude

Postby Thulcandrian » Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:57 pm

You know, I'm not sure how I overcame the fear of being seen naked. Until sometime in my first year of college, it used to bother me seeing other guys naked. Then one day it didn't. Then all of a sudden I didn't mind walking around the (all male) dorm naked myself. My guess is that exposure to nakedness eventually accustomed me to it.

I suppose it can't work that way for everyone, but hopefully the more educated people become about nudism, the more accepting they will be of it and their own body image. That could take a while for some, but knowing my journey makes me think it wouldn't be impossible.
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Re: Overcoming the fear of being seen nude

Postby DaveT » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:42 am

Yah, the older woman I was talking about has a history of poor choice of men, and I can see why.

Since I'm good at picture mindedness, (In imagination placing myself in a situation and feeling like I'm already there) Along with plenty of thought and prayer, I'm realizing what great benefits there are to be had. I am gradually getting accustomed to the idea of social naturism, and for some reason just the idea of it is helping me separate lust of the mind from nakedness. My biggest problem was; I used to lust after myself, (I never thought of it like that but I think that's what it is) but as I intentionally go naked more in private along with purposefully, and with prayer for strength, cancel lustful thoughts out of my mind every time they try to pop up again., it's working. I used to look at porn on the puter about once every 2-3 months, get disgusted at the sin of it and not go back for awhile. But now I'm disgusted at the sin just to think about it, and when I see it on occasion it's not a draw. Realizing the difference between the sinful sexulization of nakedness and nakedness as it is without sin. The attraction for the bad side is gone. It is true here as well as everywhere else, for every good thing the devil has a counterfeit.
It's becoming clear to me. Those who turn away from the sight of nakedness in order to avoid lusting after it inappropriately, are doing what they believe to be right, and it may be necessary to do that on the first level. But the next step should be to conquer lust no matter what the eyes see. Because to avoid all hiway signs and everything where 99% nakedness appears, is impossible, and if every time we see something like that accidentally, lust pops up, we haven'y really overcome the problem at all.

LOL! this is crazy. I have been praying for some time for purity of mind and heart, and now this comes along? Looks like the Lord's leading to me. But most dedicated Christians would look at me and say I was going down the drain lustwise by joining up with a bunch of naturists.
As it was written, God's ways look like foolishness to men.




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Re: Overcoming the fear of being seen nude

Postby natman » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:16 am

DaveT wrote:As it was written, God's ways look like foolishness to men.


I couldn't agree more. And this applies to many more things than simple nudity.

It appears that almost EVERY time man tries to do something to put a hedge around sin, he creates a BIGGER problem than merely dealing with the sin in the first place. A prime example was Prohibition. The intent was good; reduce or eliminate drunkeness and alcoholism and the problems they create. The problem was that out and out prohibition created a black market for alcohol that brought about gangsters, the mafia, territorial disputes and murders. And since we did not learn anything from Prohibition, we are using the same reasoning and techniques in the "war on drugs", unsurprisingly, with the same results.

The same thing happened with the human body by the well-intended actions of Victorian Prudism. By constantly hiding the human body, we have created a black-market for the distribution of images of the nude human body. However, simple nudity excited only for a while before it became boring. So in order to continue making huge profits, the perveyors of nudity felt they needed to push the envelope, displaying women in seductive poses, then poses with their legs spred apart, then poses of them in the act of sex with men, then poses of them in the act of sex with other women and men with men, then poses of them in acts of sex with foreign objects and animals, then sex with children, and then sex where they are bound up and beaten. They even went so far as to produce imagery, staged and REAL of people being killed while being raped (snuff films). I do not think there would be ANY interest in any of this stuff if the nude human body were treated as something "normal" and "natural" and regularly seen by all.

God created us, and STILL creates us, "in His image and likeness", "naked and unashamed" and declared His creation, not merely "good", but "VERY GOOD". It is MAN who decided that the "image of God" is no longer "very good", bit "evil". To which I point to the Scripture that says....

"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter." (Isa 5:20)
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Re: Overcoming the fear of being seen nude

Postby wannabnude » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:22 pm

My parents were casually nude around the bedroom and bathroom, but not in any other home context. I was never nude around them at home growing up, and I have no idea why that is. For some reason, I just never felt it would be ok somehow, like that was something only grown-ups could do perhaps.

We had gang-showers at school, and I was never afraid of that situation (well, except for the towel-snapping).

Today, I'm not sure how I'd feel if I actually pulled into the parking lot of a naturist resort and got out of the car. I keep visualizing that moment, and just can't really imagine what I would do. Probably wait until I saw someone else that way, and then got out to join them. Dunno..... :?
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Re: Overcoming the fear of being seen nude

Postby jochanaan » Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:53 pm

wannabnude wrote:...We had gang-showers at school, and I was never afraid of that situation (well, except for the towel-snapping).
They did that to you too?! :shock: :argh:

wannabnude wrote:Today, I'm not sure how I'd feel if I actually pulled into the parking lot of a naturist resort and got out of the car. I keep visualizing that moment, and just can't really imagine what I would do. Probably wait until I saw someone else that way, and then got out to join them. Dunno..... :?
Don't sell yourself short. It took me about as long to get comfortable with the idea and the reality as it did to get out of my clothes! :D I can't promise it'll be that fast for you, but for lots of folks, that's the reality. 8)
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Re: Overcoming the fear of being seen nude

Postby wannabnude » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:10 pm

That's what I would hope for!! :)
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Re: Overcoming the fear of being seen nude

Postby Mikeytosh » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:41 pm

Personally though I've not been in a naturist setting knowing myself I doubt I should have any real fear certainly nothing that should not go away once there.
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