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Postby Petros » Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:01 pm

Old news it is, but I stumbled on this today - like most things I have to say, there is not to me obvious plae for it so here:

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Whether the dedcision ever worked out as predicted, we would not know - where we are, we have not had TV since they changed the system. No big loss, there was not mucvh BEFORE the change.

The obvious question is, at what point does it become legal to do in real life whjat is allowed on the screen?
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Re: Old News

Postby jasenj1 » Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:00 pm

Ummm... The link goes to a Juno webmail login.
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Re: Old News

Postby Petros » Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:30 am

Ummmm indeed - so it does - how did that happen?

Plizz to forgiving ovrsight of the most unintentonality.

http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/27 ... ity-on-tv/
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Re: Old News

Postby Ramblinman » Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:54 am

Petros, you are not to be condemned for bringing us old news (3 years old).

This has given us three years to wait for the other shoe to drop on:

the impact of this explosion of nudity that Lars Beckman of Focus on the Family (president of FOF in 2011) claims would ruin America.
I didn't see an explosion of nudity. Nor have I heard much backlash from Beckman's millions of unquestioning dutiful listeners. They were supposed to rail against the slightest glimpse of someone's body...
because their great leader said they should. :dizzy:

Whatever America's current problems, the sight of the human body on public television or at a city park has not contributed toward those problems.

I contend that nudity in the context of people out for a swim, a walk in the woods or tending a flower bed has done much good. Children raised where the body is not hidden, but treated with respect learn a lot of things that are good and avoid learning the shame and prurient interest that clothed families are so good at teaching.
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Re: Old News

Postby jasenj1 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:08 am

The only nudity that I've noticed has been on the survivalist shows - "Naked & Afraid", and such. And those are on a cable network.

What I have noticed a rise in is graphic gore - autopsies and the like. All the CSI and cop shows have cranked up the screen time for dead, mutilated bodies.

I suspect the fear of backlash from the Focus on the Family type organizations is keeping sexual nudity in check on broadcast TV. And I want to say the FCC clarified some of its rules and still claims the power to levy fines - even if such might not hold up to a Supreme Court challenge.

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Re: Old News

Postby Ramblinman » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:26 am

jasenj1 wrote:The only nudity that I've noticed has been on the survivalist shows - "Naked & Afraid", and such. And those are on a cable network.

What I have noticed a rise in is graphic gore - autopsies and the like. All the CSI and cop shows have cranked up the screen time for dead, mutilated bodies.

I suspect the fear of backlash from the Focus on the Family type organizations is keeping sexual nudity in check on broadcast TV. And I want to say the FCC clarified some of its rules and still claims the power to levy fines - even if such might not hold up to a Supreme Court challenge.

- Jasen.


Jasen, some astute observations on your part.
If this forum had a "Like Button", I would click on it.

I love nudity as my mode of dress in mild weather.

I love the healing impact of everyday participatory non-sexual nudity on both adults and children.

I am basically neutral about seeing non-sexual nudity on television.
The sight of it might inspire the observer to seek innocent social nudity in his or her own life.
I am not trained in the social sciences, just taking a guess.
But my guess is that it is not extremely helpful as long as we are passive observers sitting in a dark living room watching other people live their lives, naked or clothed.

I like the notion of sexual nudity in private with my wife (as soon as I can find someone suitable).
But I am not one to kiss and tell and I don't care to see the most private moment in the lives of other folks.
So I don't care to watch sexual nudity on television.
There are those who enjoy romance stories in books and television and want those stories to include physical intimacy. I guess television networks are trying to offer paid subscribers what they all want but at different times and on different channels to accommodate the various groups who want hard core, soft core, or no sexual intimacy at all.


I have not always understood the concept of nonsexual nudity for adults in mixed company as a positive thing. I never thought of it as sinful, just ill-advised (source of temptation). Obviously I have had a change of opinion, but I still remember the days when I was in the same camp as the "no nudity whatsoever" crowd.

So I understand that people who have the typical American Evangelical background are confused about this issue.

Ironically, they have made a boogie man out of the very thing that could make their lives better.
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Re: Old News

Postby Petros » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:36 am

Ah, yes.

we do do some videos, and there is perhaps an upswing [I have not kept at chart of what and when] in sex scenes, autopsies, dismemberments.

None of which are conducive to healthy living and positive body image, nor to entertainment.

Not surprising - how long has it been since TV was into showing healthy families having pleasant interactions.
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Re: Old News

Postby Ramblinman » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:45 am

Petros wrote:...Not surprising - how long has it been since TV was into showing healthy families having pleasant interactions.


Good drama calls for occasional misunderstandings, overcoming obstacles, maybe some differences of opinion, but I don't care for the edgy dysfunctional families that dominate primetime situation comedies.

Do you suppose we should pass a law that only normal, well-adjusted people become script writers? :biggrin:

We have a cable channel that seems to be the surgery channel (not my career choice) and some of the cop shows spend way more time in a morgue than I care to see.

I don't watch much television. Even if all the shows were of the highest quality, it would take my life out of balance to become a couch potato.

I still love to read books, news magazines, listen to good music, venture outdoors, socialize with friends.
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Re: Old News

Postby Petros » Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:24 pm

"Do you suppose we should pass a law that only normal, well-adjusted people become script writers?"

Quis custodiet? Where we gonna find the normal, well-adjusted media execs to monitor them, or the normal, well-adjusted, perhaps naturist-friendly shrinks to vet them?

As you say - books - and by preference older books, since many newer are stolen off the telly - are best.
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Re: Old News

Postby natman » Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:54 pm

Despite the "freedom" to display simple, non-sexual nudity on television, I have not noticed an upsurge. However, I do not watch a lot of network TV.

In fact, I noticed that earlier episodes of NCIS often had cadavers laying totally nude on the tables of the medical examiner's office with only a bright light to "blur out" the "wobbly bits". Now, all cadavers appear to be draped with a towel.

However, I am not surprised. Prior to the change of policy, the networks were constantly trying to push the envelope. NOW, I think that they have another pony to push around, "homosexual families". It seems that almost all of the new shows have one or more homosexual characters or couples, some of which are the primary characters of the show.

They do not want to "normalize" simple nudity because then, they would lose the big bucks they can make using it as advertising. Right now, their focus appears to be to "normalize" homosexuality instead.
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Re: Old News

Postby jochanaan » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:18 pm

Remember, this is from The Weekly World News, the tabloid that writes regularly about bat boys, alien invasions, and supermodels competing in Lingerie Bowls. :mrgreen:
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Re: Old News

Postby Petros » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:16 am

Is it indeed?

Never heard on it - I only know the National Enquirer, which the Web increasingly emulates.

Still, nosing around I did see stories otherwhence that the FCC was going that route.
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Re: Old News

Postby jochanaan » Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:26 am

Uh, when was the last time you went to a grocery store? :)
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Re: Old News

Postby Petros » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:42 pm

Monday, as it happens.

But the displays by thecheckout are tuned to those shorter than I, I am generally busy unloading the cart and then I zip forward to stand by the register checkbook in hand, and so maybe 6 times a year I spot an Enquirerr headline - from which I avert my eyes, often not without a shaking of the head, and I NEVER glance at the banner - I vaguely know there are now 3 or 6 National Enquirer clones, but I never stop to distinguish. Herself does not deignb to get involved with the,

Quiote possibly Wee Coryl who was once a sporadic Enquirer reader - only for the informartional articles, like Playboy - not that she ever read Playboy - would know the various NatEnquoidea and their distinctives, but not I.

How tall are you? I have always assumed you were under my 6'3" - the photo gives that impression.
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Re: Old News

Postby Jon-Marc » Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:38 pm

They might show full frontal on women, but I don't believe they would with men; time will tell. With pubic hair, you don't actually see the vagina on women, but male genitals are more visible and more offensive to uptight and prudish people.
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