need some advice

[geologist2007]

I have been a home nudist for quite a few years and my wife is Ok with it providing it is not social and I confine myself to home or where I will not be seen. Thats OK and I would like more, but am fine with how things are progressing.
The issue I have is that I seek 'fellowship' with other nude people via TV or internet. I just like to see naked people and as I can't in real life, I look for it elsewhere. I avoid porn but I can wander into it, especially if it has been a long time, if you know what I mean. I find that when I am home alone and spend the time naked, it is too easy for my mind to wander and I have a great desire to relieve myself. Then I do feel guilt that I am using nudism for impure reasons. I want to glorify God with my whole being and heart, yet wonder if I would be better off to stop it completerly. thoughts?

[geologist2007]

Another note- sometimes I feel as though I am obsessed with being nude and seeing others nude. Shouldn’t my attitude be ‘they are dressed, that’s fine’ and ‘they are nude, that’s fine’?

[JimShedd112]

Geologist, I’m not sure I really have the answers you’re looking for. I’m a home nudist myself since my wife retired several years ago. When she worked I sometimes was able to join others fir social nudism but know if I participated now it’d really create controversy. Now, I can’t even relax nude at home except in total privacy since she has made it clear she doesn’t want to see me nude. Further, our daughter and 8-year old granddaughter live with us.

In terms of relieving yourself, I understand the need too. Masturbation has been my only relief for quite a long while now. I too enjoy looking at nude makes and females like yourself and personally don’t believe there is any harm in either. But, it’s only my point of view. And, in all fairness I am not religious and so don’t have a conflict of conscience which you may feel yourself.

Jim

[geologist2007]

Thanks Jim. Good to know I’m not the only one. It is hard when there is no one of the same ilk to talk about it with. I am fortunate that my wife doesn’t mind me being nude at home!

[Jim]

My advice is to ejaculate regularly, by masturbation without guilt if marital sex is not available, before you get too horny. Just don't masturbate to porn or even decent nudity, which will give it a hold over you.

[OzTech]

Well... perhaps I'm not really understanding the situation completely but... ideally... the intimate part of the marital relationship should be sufficiently active enough so that a husband and wife do not build up a excess of sexual tension that would necessitate self expression. This may not always be the case as some things can impede this (e.g. perhaps one part of the couple is unable, for medical or maybe psychological reasons, to engage in sex to that degree). If such is the case then there maybe no alternative but to relieve yourself on occasions. A lot of the issue comes down to motivations.

It probably becomes a relational concern if sexual relationship between a couple becomes abandoned in favour of masturbation or one member, contrary to scripture, refrains from a normal, healthy sexual activity with their spouse. In these cases they would probably need to, at least, talk it over or maybe even enter into some form of counselling.

I have no qualifications in this matter so you can ignore anything I've written... this is just what I've found over the past 30+ years with one failed marriage and my current marriage.

[Dracofyre]

Hi Geologist,
There is actually a thread on this site which discusses masturbation extensively. I think the posts here are a good summary, but I suggest you read the whole thread.
I agree that it would be wrong to neglect your wife. The Scriptures are clear that your body is hers. If there is some reason you can not have sex or not have it often enough you might consider asking her permission to masturbate. That is the situation I am in and having my beloved's permission has given me a lot lf freedom. Of course I would rather it be with her, but this is a workable solution.
I also agree with the others that you should not masturbate to photos. I dont feel there is any problem with looking at photos of nudist at sites like this one. Just dont use them to lustful ends. Also there are many web pages for nude resorts that have photos. Pornographic photos are problematic as they are meant to encourage lust and objectify women (and men). If photos are making you lust then steer away from them. It is possible to masturbate without lust. Go without the photos and the imagination and concentrate on the amazing process or even try praying.
The Bible gives clear instructions about many kinds of sex, but it never mentions masturbation, not once. Those who equate Onanism with mastubation havent done their exegesis. So we are free. You are in my prayers as you struggle through this.
John

[geologist2007]

Thanks for all of your comments. Suggestions have gone more into the masturbation aspect and I agree that it is not forbidden in Scripture unless it is depriving my spouse from sex. That is not my main issue. Is my desire to see nudism (sometimes I feel almost obsessed) normal? Or can it become idolatry? I am concerned that I will take the goodness of wholesome nudity and pervert it.

[CHUBACA]

That is not my main issue. Is my desire to see nudism (sometimes I feel almost obsessed) normal?

No matter where you go in the world people desire to be FREE. The human spirit naturally desires freedom, that is the way we were created in the beginning. Nudism is perhaps the ultimate expression of that freedom. Your desire to see people living FREE is only natural for someone living in the bondage of a textile society. The more you live life FREE, and the more you are around people who express their freedom as we do, the less pictures of people living their lives free will appeal to you. Just keep it pure

[Dracofyre]

Hi Geologist,
Thats a good question, only you can judge if your desire to see people nude goes too far or is unwholesome. I can speak for myself that I enjoy seeing photos of nudist. The human body is beautiful and it was among the things God declared "good". If it makes you lustful or gives you sexual thoughts or becomes obsessive, perhaps it would be best to steer away from looking at them, but if it is simply the enjoyment of the beauty of people being nude I would say, enjoy it all you like and praise God for it as you do. Thats my two cent worth.

[baresoul]

I would not argue against masturbation but do not clearly see why there is some need for that when in a normal healthy marriage. It might not be my business but what exception there is was not explained. If there is masturbation, it can be for normal relief, it would not be that if it gets connected to viewing nude people, even if that viewing is not of pornography it will get connected to that, regrettably, so I say it is not advisable. Seeing nude people, if not in person in social events, could be incidental to finding nudist communication, which is of more importance especially if there is deprivation of normal involvement being present in nudist events or socializing.

[geologist2007]

Thanks for your comments. I think the advice and cautions are a good balance. I will continue to pray about it

[naturist]

I have been a home nudist for quite a few years and my wife is Ok with it providing it is not social and I confine myself to home or where I will not be seen. Thats OK and I would like more, but am fine with how things are progressing.
The issue I have is that I seek 'fellowship' with other nude people via TV or internet. I just like to see naked people and as I can't in real life, I look for it elsewhere.

I understand your need to seek out fellowship with other nudists. If you look at any hobby, there's tons of websites and forums out their for it. When one finds something interesting to do as a hobby or in this case a lifestyle, naturally we seek out like minded people that enjoy the same thing. I agree it is very easy to wander from true nudism, into pornography. Just make an effort to watch for key words in the search engine that are red flags when searching and just avoid clicking on those links. A great site too, you might check out is http://mychainsaregone.org/?doing_wp_cr ... 7939453125 Good information for helping separate "good nudity" from "bad nudity".

[Maverick]

Hi geologist, I realize this strip is a couple months old, but I thought I'd share something really quickly.

I've felt the same way you have before. Not as much recently, because I've been keeping very busy—and I think that's part of it. I've noticed in the past that I tend to be lured into looking at photos and videos of naturists when I'm relatively idle and have nothing else to do. Not that that's a bad thing, but in the past (again) for me this has sometimes led me into seeing photos that borderline pornographic (or are pornographic) that I didn't want to see but nevertheless saw and felt guilty about.

I guess what I would say to you is probably what others have said here, and that is to think about the intent behind why you're looking. For me, especially as an adolescent, it was pure curiosity: "What does the female body look like?" combined with "People can live nude and not be ashamed?" Other times, it was to get aroused (though I have never watched porn—the "real deal" sickens me and I've never watched it).

My thoughts on this are half-formed at the moment but I hope they help. If I think of something else I'll be sure to write more.

I hope and pray this helps!