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Naturism and photos

Postby Josh » Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:45 pm

Boy you guys who can run naked and be out in wildlife naked sure are blessed!
Because my wife is "puritanical Christian" I don't really have this freedom. I did get to go to a nude beach like twice when I was single, and once when we were married I walked nude along the beach with my wife. She didn't, she kept her swim attire on. It wasn't even a nudist beach! But there was no problem since there were no people anywhere, so she didn't care much. One time I did actually run and walk nude on a public bike & jog path! But that was just for like ten minutes. I was already shirtless and just slipped off my running shorts. It was kind of risky since at certain times the path is well used, but it was lunch time and it was a time when like no one ventures out here because it gets too beastly hot. It was a wonderful feeling! But now for some time it seems like the only naturist venues or participation I have is being naked at home when I'm alone, and at the gym, etc.
(Once we were at in-laws house and I was alone in their pool because they were all eating and I slipped my swim suit off in the pool! That was kind of risky too! They are definitely not nudist and they aren't Christians either and don't really like our religion so if they had seen me swimming nude it would have been odd! But I just wanted to see what it would feel like and it was so freeing! Why in the world do people ever wear clothes in the pool who don't feel nudity is wrong?) Anyway, all I have left to show naturism is at home and sometimes posting pics, but sometimes I feel like my pics are kind of dumb because they aren't taken out in nature like everybody else's! But at least by putting pics on decent forums (not porn sites!) it's kind of like declaring I beleive in freedom and see non-sexual nudity as normal and I'm not ashamed of my body and don't care who sees me. Is this weird or "wrong" in some way since I can't participate outside for the sake of peace?

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Re: Naturism and photos

Postby jochanaan » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:54 am

Josh wrote:...Is this weird or "wrong" in some way since I can't participate outside for the sake of peace?

Well, I don't think so. :) I haven't had a chance to do too many photos outdoors in the nude, apart from a session with a professional photographer that resulted in some fine pictures--but the photographer holds the copyright. But I did take some with my own webcam a while back.

You see, once we break the whole "nudity = sex" mindset, we become free to be naked in any context or situation, indoors or outdoors. Putting up photos is one way to exercise this freedom whether they were taken in natural settings or not.
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Postby Martin » Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:04 am

I fully agree with what Jochanaan says, Josh. The nudist resorts I visit do not permit the use of cameras, and I've never had the opportunity to be photographed nude out of doors. Living in an area where outdoor nudity is not at all practical, I have to be content with going naked inside our home. Your photos are most welcomed, taken indoors or not. I hope to have some of my own (also taken indoors) posted here in the near future.

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Thanks!

Postby Josh » Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:37 am

I appreciate these responses! It makes me feel more at ease. I really like what Jochanaan said that "putting up photos is one way to express this freedom". That's the way I feel. It is publically stating that I feel that nudity does NOT equal sex. It is "sharing myself" with others without hiding anything, whether I am old or young, thin or fat, bald or whatever, not ashamed for our naked bodies to be seen because it's just the way the Creator made us!
Posting pics is a way for those of us who can't be naked as much as we would like to participate.

Thanks guys!

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Postby NudeATVer » Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:39 am

I finally set up the camera on my tri-pod and used the self timer. I took several pics in the outdoors and did send one to Jon-Marc. That was my first time to share any type on nude pic with someone. I get to spend many hours each week in the outdoors on the ranch nude and I enjoy taking pics, but don't think most would want to see me. Funny, I really do enjoy seeing others pics both inside and out. The old (nude=naughty) thinking is had to break when thinking of posting self pictures.
** I'm not an exhibitionist, I don't have anything to exhibit **
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Postby Paul Walker » Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:17 pm

It is difficult to find a picture of my family in our photo albums where we are actually wearing clothes!

A few years ago, our local resort started really cracking down on camera use. probably a good thing since a few people using cameras were nto always as careful about keeping others out of the shots as we are. Heck, I have been turned in for taking pictures of my adopt-a-kid by people who didn't know us. The office always investigates any complaints about camera use, so I always know when it happens. I had to get special permission to use a camera at the resport, but my wife does not. Double standard!!!

When the kid takes pictures, we always have to scan through them to make sure he didn't get anyone we don't know in them. Lately, he likes taking pictures of people's feet under bathroom stalls!! Ha haa haaa!!! He thinks it's hilarious.
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Re: Naturism and photos

Postby KalosSoma » Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:22 pm

Boy, this is one of the few remaining naturism issues that I still struggle with, though I think you all are helping clarify things for me a little. When I first encountered CNV and saw that it had a photo gallery, I almost bypassed it for good. I don't know what made me stick around -- probably the overwhelming sense I got from the rest of the forum that this was not a den of creeps, but an earnest and welcoming Christian community.

Though there's still a part of me that sees naturist photos in general as exhibitionistic, I am beginning to be able to see the point of view that Josh and Jochanaan express, that it's really breaking the "nudity = sex" mindset, rather than supporting it. And that it's a way to participate in social naturism if one isn't able, for whatever reasons, to participate "in the flesh," so to speak. That angle is interesting, and one I hadn't thought of before.

In fact, it's that participation aspect that may be the "doorway" for me to post photos someday (though they would still have to be unidentifiable, mainly because of my work). I can begin to see it as just an extension of the interaction and fellowship that's already happening here in words.
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Re: Naturism and photos

Postby natman » Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:08 pm

If we do our jobs right, the photos that are posted here will NEVER be exhibitionistic. Exhibitionists do what they do so people will look exclusively at them. The web is LOADED with those kinds of photos if people want to see them.


True naturist, and particularly Christian naturist photos should be only about people doing everyday things, albeit as God created them to be, nude where practical and comfortable, devoid of sexual activity, sexual inticement or sexual inuendo.



Apart from simple nudity, our photo albums should be someplace where parents can bring their children and not have to worry that they will see something that is not appropriate.
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Re: Naturism and photos

Postby KalosSoma » Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:14 pm

"True naturist, and particularly Christian naturist photos should be only about people doing everyday things, albeit as God created them to be, nude where practical and comfortable, devoid of sexual activity, sexual inticement or sexual inuendo."

Agreed - precisely! That's a photo-gallery mission statement if I ever heard one. Thank you!
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Re: Naturism and photos

Postby KalosSoma » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:34 am

However... I do have to be honest in saying the presence of photos of children and teens in the "Ordinary Nakedness" section, now that I look back at them, is pretty disturbing. I don't know where they came from, but I get a strong feeling that whoever originally posted them may not have had entirely pure motives. I may be completely off base, but I still think it's best to err on the side of protecting children.

It's just my completely personal opinion, and I'm still new here, but I really think the only people under 18 that should be pictured on CNV are those whose parents are native members and who are with them in the photo.
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Re: Naturism and photos

Postby natman » Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:48 pm

The intent of the Galleries is to show that EVERYONE, regardless of age, gender, color, national origin or body shape can and DO enjoy simple, practical, non-sexual nudity.

If we refuse to show children and teens enjoying simple, practical, non-sexual nudity, just like everyone else, then we feed the notion that such nudity is or should be forbidden.

Just as it is has been shown that showing images of all kinds of people enjoying everyday activities in simple, practical, non-sexual ways reduces and inclination to porn and instills a healthy attitude toward the human body in general, images of children in those same conditions helps to reduce the inclinations toward pedophilia related porn and attitudes.

The truth of the matter is that kids love to be naked as much if not more than most adults, and they have a better mindset on the matter as well. If anything, we should model their purity of thought and action.
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Re: Naturism and photos

Postby KalosSoma » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:00 pm

Good points, and I do agree with most of what you're saying. I'm not saying photos of children/teens shouldn't be shown at all;, I just wonder about the "non-original" photos and where they've originated. It's certainly not a deal-breaker for me in terms of participating here, but I'd be more comfortable knowing that the children in the photos were "ours." so to speak, rather than not knowing who they - or their parents - are, or what the original poster's intent was.
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Re: Naturism and photos

Postby natman » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:18 pm

KalosSoma wrote:I'd be more comfortable knowing that the children in the photos were "ours." so to speak, rather than not knowing who they - or their parents - are, or what the original poster's intent was.


Actually, for the same reasons you feel a need for annonymity, I would feel LESS comfortable if the kids in the photos were ours. The fact that the rest of the photos are annonymous means that it would be very difficult if not impossible for a person who DOES have the wrong ideas to track a certain child down. As posters on the internet, while it is somewhat "difficult" for others to track our "specific" personal information down, it is not "impossible". At the same time, there are LOTS of good, proper naturist sites where parents have absolutely no problem posting photos of themselves and their children, mostly in Europe.

However, this site and others are striving for the day when it will make little difference.
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Re: Naturism and photos

Postby KalosSoma » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:29 pm

That makes sense. Some things about a new lifestyle - whether it's naturism, or moving to a new home or job, or getting married - take more time and effort to get adjusted to than others, and I think this is one of those "toughies" for me. Thanks for your patience.
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Re: Naturism and photos

Postby natman » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:34 pm

KalosSoma wrote:Thanks for your patience.

And thank you for your feedback.
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