Nude Family swim in Calgary

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Re: Nude Family swim in Calgary

Postby Ramblinman » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:53 pm

balaam wrote:
webmeister wrote:Oh No! They actually cancelled the event. 20,000 signatures (population is 1.2 million) of protest and a report of a threat of cameras and baseball bats shut it down. The concern was over children attending and overall safety. Councilman said they could have made it 18+
Like Natman says :argh:

The event was ticketed and there were only a few under 18s going, and they were children of attending adults. There was no chance of under 18s who were not accustomed to nude swimming attending.

the 18+ thing was just making excuses.

Of course, I didn't expect minors showing up without their parents.
But naturist kids need the reinforcement of naturist activities.
One annual family trip to a nudist camp doesn't cut it in this day and age of prudishness and lechery.

I certainly hope that the naturists and freedom-loving sympathizers will sue in a big way.
If they do nothing to fight back, it would be a massive defeat for good nudity!
This certainly is discrimination!
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Re: Nude Family swim in Calgary

Postby geologist2007 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:17 pm

This event certainly got the worlds attention - when it was cancelled at least. Reports are that it was cancelled because of the threats of violence not the nudity itself.
Calgary and Alberta in general was known as the Bible Belt 80 years ago, but with the growth of the province mainly through the oil industry, it has changed. People tended to be entrepreneurial and hard working. The electorate voted conservative for decades, but the provincial conservative government became increasingly liberal, resulting in the creation of new conservative parties. We are currently ruled by a socialist party, NDP but that is another story. The attitude here is similar to elsewhere that there is an increasing desire for the government to take care of everything.
There is another closed group that has a camp near Calgary and they host closed swims in the winter with no problem. Participants have to be approved to attend and I expect that it is not even close to the 160 registered for the canceled event. Edmonton, 180 miles to the north, has a camp as well that holds swims and there is a nude beach not too far away.

The meetup group is raising funds for legal fees but I am not sure what they are proposing
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Re: Nude Family swim in Calgary

Postby Ramblinman » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:25 am

geologist2007 wrote:This event certainly got the worlds attention - when it was cancelled at least. Reports are that it was cancelled because of the threats of violence not the nudity itself.
Calgary and Alberta in general was known as the Bible Belt 80 years ago, but with the growth of the province mainly through the oil industry, it has changed. People tended to be entrepreneurial and hard working. The electorate voted conservative for decades, but the provincial conservative government became increasingly liberal, resulting in the creation of new conservative parties. We are currently ruled by a socialist party, NDP but that is another story. The attitude here is similar to elsewhere that there is an increasing desire for the government to take care of everything.
There is another closed group that has a camp near Calgary and they host closed swims in the winter with no problem. Participants have to be approved to attend and I expect that it is not even close to the 160 registered for the canceled event. Edmonton, 180 miles to the north, has a camp as well that holds swims and there is a nude beach not too far away.

The meetup group is raising funds for legal fees but I am not sure what they are proposing

geologist2007, I am not advocating for the government to be the sole arbiter.
I hope the private sector will offer more venues for us.
But where there is public land, there needs to be accommodation of naturists.
One problem with private clubs is that they tend to make naturism a well-kept secret.
Of course it gives you marvelous control of the atmosphere. Lewd visitors are more easily sent packing than on a pubic beach such as Wreck.
Around here in the southern USA, our nudists have been deathly afraid of persecution and with good reason.
We tend to fly under the radar.
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Re: Nude Family swim in Calgary

Postby natman » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:18 pm

geologist2007 wrote:This event certainly got the worlds attention - when it was cancelled at least. Reports are that it was cancelled because of the threats of violence not the nudity itself.


However, the threats of violence were coming from those who did not want the event to occur, not from those who would have been in attendance. :?
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Re: Nude Family swim in Calgary

Postby webmeister » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:01 pm

natman wrote:
geologist2007 wrote:This event certainly got the worlds attention - when it was cancelled at least. Reports are that it was cancelled because of the threats of violence not the nudity itself.


However, the threats of violence were coming from those who did not want the event to occur, not from those who would have been in attendance. :?

Using the threat of violence could also be a convenient hanger for city government to hang a hat on so as to avoid the nudity issue and therefore the possibility of a discrimination lawsuit.
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Re: Nude Family swim in Calgary

Postby jochanaan » Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:28 pm

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natman wrote:
geologist2007 wrote:This event certainly got the worlds attention - when it was cancelled at least. Reports are that it was cancelled because of the threats of violence not the nudity itself.


However, the threats of violence were coming from those who did not want the event to occur, not from those who would have been in attendance. :?

Using the threat of violence could also be a convenient hanger for city government to hang a hat on so as to avoid the nudity issue and therefore the possibility of a discrimination lawsuit.
Seems to me that, in that case, Calgary should have offered extra police protection to the naturists. I'm certain the naturists wouldn't have minded if the cops kept their clothes on. :)
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Re: Nude Family swim in Calgary

Postby geologist2007 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:31 pm

The Mayor was disgusted that it was cancelled. The facility was a city run pool. Actually aren't many other options. The Y has some but they are run with the city I think. U of Calgary has pools... And then a local club (high priced private) has a pool.
The pool that the closed group uses is a city pool, but they keep a low profile. The group that organized the cancelled one is making plans for other events, but keeping it pretty quiet so far as to the when and where. I think they cancelled their facebook profile,etc and will start again more discretely. They are talking about hikes in the summer too. Maybe they should use a smaller river for a skinny dip, assuming they can find a good place on private land.
It certainly got people talking!
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Re: Nude Family swim in Calgary

Postby New_Adventurer » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:36 am

Why not invite the nay-sayers to a debate and challenge them to what exactly is wrong with the swim and where in the Bible are they referring to. It would also help if a few high-profile locals could publicly declare their support or even participation for the swims. As for the violence issue, let the police do their job and prevent the violence.
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Re: Nude Family swim in Calgary

Postby JimShedd112 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:15 am

While I agree having a few high-profile itizens voice support for or participation would be great it’s probably not likely since most want to maintain their standing in the community. Yes, the police should protect the rights of the nudists and protect them from violence.

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Re: Nude Family swim in Calgary

Postby nudie66 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:41 am

New_Adventurer wrote:Why not invite the nay-sayers to a debate and challenge them to what exactly is wrong with the swim and where in the Bible are they referring to.


Unfortunately, I've seen so-called Bible thumpers try to prove any point with the Bible - why women shouldn't wear jeans, but only dresses... why going to a movie theater is sinful... why it's sinful to be naked... etc., etc. ... I'm sure that a meeting with naysayers would not end with them changing their perception of what they've already decided to believe.
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Re: Nude Family swim in Calgary

Postby Ramblinman » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:07 pm

There are indeed Bible Thumpers who don't spend much time actually reading the Bible.
If the Lord puts one in your life, by all means challenge them to read it prayerfully.
They are so badly infected with negativity about almost everything, that it poisons their minds as they read God's word.
Pray that God will soften hardened hearts.

I agree that our time is better spent speaking to those more open-minded.
Even if they don't participate in the nude swims, would most folks at least agree to leave us alone when we are in private?
I hope so.
I only know that hiding our light under a bushel basket is not the answer either.
What we have is too good to keep to ourselves.

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Re: Nude Family swim in Calgary

Postby geologist2007 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:12 pm

It's back!
http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-new ... tion-group

The group has worked out a deal with the city to allow it to proceed. To go, you have to join the group and they will only allow enough memberships to meet the current capacity. Date and location is unknown. Guess they are taking a different approach this time. Not that they purposely advertised last time.
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Re: Nude Family swim in Calgary

Postby webmeister » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:07 am

geologist2007 wrote:It's back!
http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-new ... tion-group

The group has worked out a deal with the city to allow it to proceed. To go, you have to join the group and they will only allow enough memberships to meet the current capacity. Date and location is unknown. Guess they are taking a different approach this time. Not that they purposely advertised last time.

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Re: Nude Family swim in Calgary

Postby JimShedd112 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:29 am

Good news indeed.

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Re: Nude Family swim in Calgary

Postby webmeister » Wed May 23, 2018 11:54 am

Anyone have an update on this event or future events? Geologist2007 ? maybe you have heard something up there?
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