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fatpizzaman1 wrote:I believe it's the individual's choice at the end of the day. Most of these 'nude only' clubs are effectively pushing away the younger crowd with their rules. Let people enjoy nude recreation at their own pace.
KalosSoma wrote:fatpizzaman1 wrote:I believe it's the individual's choice at the end of the day. Most of these 'nude only' clubs are effectively pushing away the younger crowd with their rules. Let people enjoy nude recreation at their own pace.
Having never been to one, it seems to me just from the reading I've done that the nude-only venues have that rule to try to discourage voyeurism -- going with the idea that those who just want to "look" aren't likely to want to disrobe themselves, and/or that disrobing proves you're "serious" about being there.
But at the same time it seems archaic, and I would agree that it probably does "push away the younger crowd." I'd guess that people from, say, ages 21 to 45 are more likely to have encountered social nudity in a "clothing optional" setting these days, whether at a beach, hot spring, spa, or even an event like Bay to Breakers, World Naked Bike Ride or Burning Man. Clothing-optional, in fact, seems to be kind of the "leading edge" of social nudity today.
And I would hope that the other safeguards that naturist venues have in place, such as identification/registration, background checks, limits on unaccompanied males, etc., would serve to protect the venue and the people who use it without forcing the nude-only mandate on a newbie who may indeed take a while to get used to social naturism.
Speaking personally, I'm certain that if and when we have our first social-nudity experience, my wife and I will choose a clothing-optional situation, whether it's a "meetup" at someone's home, a beach, or a landed naturist venue. Just my two cents.
fatpizzaman1 wrote:Limiting single males is also a blight on the nudist movement. As a single male myself I find this sort of thing disgusting and patronising. From my own experience I have found that the main troublemakers at nudist venues have most often been married males, and the single guys have been good as gold. It needs to come down to a case-by-case basis on the person rather than the gender. As long as a particular person does not have a criminal record, especially where sex crimes are concerned, let them take part in a nudist environment.
luxorsecurity wrote:Yes, base admission upon the individual and not their social or gender status. If one acts inappropriately he or she should be made to leave and not return, even if part of a couple.
Jim
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