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Leaving the Village

Postby NakedMan57 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:45 pm

Hi Villagers,
Well, I must say, I have had a very rewarding experience, here, in the Village. But, I am afraid that I will be departing.

Some transpirations:

Yesterday, I posted the Changes in my life, post. I am very happy with the changes in my life and my wife is very happy with them, also. Please pray that I continue on this path and that God will, and I will let Him, direct it.

This morning we had a discussion about social nudity and our possible participation in it. This was my the challenge to adventure, for her, that I talked about in my post, Need some help with an adventure.
The conversation went something like this:

Me: If I told you that I made arrangements to spend a weekend at a family nudist resort, would I have to drag you or will you come along willingly?
Her: If it is just us, I will go willingly. If there are others there, no.
Me: Here is what is funny, I will have to drag you there and then drag you back home.
Her: She laughed a little and then said she did NOT want to be naked around others, whether clothed or not, and she didn't want to be around others that are naked.

Now, her challenge to me was this: Discontinue reading and posting on C-NV and N-C sites. She will allow me to keep the accounts in case any of you want to converse by PM.
Even though she did not accept my challenge to adventure, I will gladly accept hers. You see, not to be offensive, mean or rude to you Villagers, my relationship with her is way more important than this forum. However, your friendship and love has encouraged me and I want to still be friends.

I will not be removing my account so if any of you want to PM me, that will be fine. I will receive an email notifying me of the PM and then I will log on and answer your PM. She told me this would be ok.

Thank you for all of the replies and encouragement. You are truly a blessed group.

Donald - NM57
PS: Social Nudity is a NO-GO.
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Re: Leaving the Village

Postby natman » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:47 pm

Donald,


I hope you are still here to read this. There is absolutely no offense taken. We all agree that your marriage is FAR MORE IMPORTANT than conversations about anything we would talk about here in the "Village".



I hope that this is just a test and that you might come back and post with us again sometime after you have satisfied your wife's challenge. That is in the hands of the Lord.



Your wife sounds very much like my own and probably very much like many of the wives here as well.



I had the wonderful privilege of having Matthew Neal over to our house several evenings this week. My wife knows that he is a "naturist" and that he is also a music minister. He and I even had some time to sit and talk in our spa as God created us. Unfortunately, my wife would not join us and we had a similar conversation to the one you posted here.



She is VERY fine being nude with me, anytime, in and around the house or in a private location such as a remote cabin etc. However, she does not ever want to be in the midst of a group of socially nude people. She agrees with the notion that there is nothing sinful about being nude, seeing other nude or being seen nude. But she doesn't think that our society is ready for it. I am fine with that and will never press her. Like myself, I will let the Holy Spirit work on her if that is God's desire for her.



She asked me why I was so comfortable being nude among others. I told her that I was raised seeing other naked, helping mom bathe the siblings, showers with other boys from 7th grade through college and whenever I went to the gym, Boy Scout Camping and church camps with outside and group shower facilities and finally, helping to bathe and care for my elderly parents, in-laws and grandparents. She never experienced any of that. She said that even in junior high and high school, the girls kept towels wrapped around themselves. Consequently, I have a lot of dogmas to break through, or rather, God has a lot of dogmas to break through. In the mean time, I will lover her with all my heart and cherish every moment we have together, fully clothed or naked as jaybirds.
SON-cerely,
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Re: Leaving the Village

Postby Larryk1052 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:43 pm

You have something that many nudist men would love to have and that is a wife that embraces nudism on a private level. I understand the desire for social nudity, and I want that for my life as well as for my wife. But, I'd adjust happily if she would enjoy nudity around the house with me. For the most part I am a private nudist because I don't have much opportunity for social nudity. I value my nude time and would love for my wife to join me in it.
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Re: Leaving the Village

Postby montanaman » Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:33 am

Well Donald, I'm sad to see you're leaving, since we're so close geographically, but I certainly understand. Our spouces should have first priority(after the Lord). Maybe things will change in the near future and we can hear from you again.

Blessings to you and your missus!

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Re: Leaving the Village

Postby Ramblinman » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:00 pm

NakedMan57 wrote:...Now, her challenge to me was this: Discontinue reading and posting on C-NV and N-C sites. She will allow me to keep the accounts in case any of you want to converse by PM.
Even though she did not accept my challenge to adventure, I will gladly accept hers. You see, not to be offensive, mean or rude to you Villagers, my relationship with her is way more important than this forum. However, your friendship and love has encouraged me and I want to still be friends. .

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I would never consider marrying a woman who would forbid me to read or discuss literature on philosophy, politics, religion, etc... Such an attitude is totally antagonistic to the love of liberty, free exchange of ideas, and is a crude parody of true love.

Any single guys faced with such attitudes should run (not walk) in the opposite direction from marriage with such a one as she.

But let me make it clear that I am not directing this advice to married men such as Donald. We are all aware of the Bible's teachings on the sanctity of marriage, even a bad one, so divorce is not a biblical option for the overwhelming majority of men in such a situation.

It seems sad that his wife demands that he break off naturist fellowship, even text-based dialog of the most edifying form. She is unwittingly shutting him off from the very source of his liberation from porn addiction.

If she resents the few minutes of time it takes to read the posts here, he has way bigger problems than just her reluctance to try naturism.

Let's keep them in our prayers.
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Re: Leaving the Village

Postby prairieboy » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:01 pm

Let's review:


NakedMan57 wrote:What has changed in my life is that, my love for Jesus has grown immensely;
my love for my wife has gone wild;
my desire for sexual gratification through pornographic images is GONE!
One day I decided to stay naked when my wife arrived home. .... She loved it!
I have also come to grips with my negative body image.
I have also lost 18 pounds since Christmas.
My wife said a few days ago, that she really loves having her husband back. What she meant was that she no longer sees me as being down and depressed. She says my joy has returned.
I haven't been worrying about all of the things that I used to worry about.
I am reading my bible more.
I am now being the way a husband should be and not the way pornography makes you be. Praise God!


Let's see ... positive, positive, positive, so quit doing it! I don't understand it.
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Re: Leaving the Village

Postby natman » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:48 am

Well, it might make PERFECT sense to someone who has grown up with Victorian prudery and the way the "church" (small "c") portrays the role of nudity all of their lives. Unfortunately, it flys in the face of Christian pragmatism (doing things the way God intended them to be done because that was His design and so that is the way they work best). The Jews tought they could prevent people from sinning if they did not even come close to the objects or substances that "might" tempt them to sin. It was referred to as fence-building and it is the practice that took us from the simple decalogue to 613 laws of the Jewish Talmud. Fortunately, Jesus reduced all of the Law to just two commands; Love the Lord and love your neighbor.

It will be ineresting to see if Donald reverts back to some, if not all of his old ways over a period of time. Please lift him and his wife up in your prayers.
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Re: Leaving the Village

Postby jochanaan » Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:20 pm

:pray: Father God, we know that nudism and naturism are no bad things, but have great potential for healing and spiritual growth; yet one among us has been challenged by his spouse and has accepted the challenge. Father, I pray first and always that Your will be done and Your Name glorified; yet I also pray for a softened heart and a renewed spirit, and for this conflict to be resolved in our favor. In Jesus' name and for His sake always; Amen. :pray:
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Re: Leaving the Village

Postby NakedMan57 » Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:15 pm

Good Morning: (well, afternoon for most)

I am officially back in the Village. :D


Hi Friends,

After many days of discussion and prayer my wife and I have ironed a lot of things out. First of all, in one of my posts I stated that my wife was of the mindset that social nudity was against God. I was not in complete understanding of her stand against it. I basically “thought” that that was it. However, it wasn’t it at all. Her biggest fear about social nudity, for us, was her knowing the problem that I had with pornography. Understand this, I was trying to get her to go to nude beaches with me when I was still doing pornography. I do admit that a lot of my motivation was to be able to see real live people, undressed. Her fear was based on the reality that I neglected her and the kids while involved with pornography. Which was very true.

She has seen what has been going on with me in the past few months and is very excited about the weight loss, increased time spent in prayer, study and worship of God, and the joy she now sees in me. She is very pleased about my new attitude and my commitment to stay away from pornography. She wants to see if this is a permanent thing and that is why she asked me to discontinue reading and posting on the forums. Now that she knows that the Christian-Naturist forums have helped me, considerably, she has no problem with me resuming my participation in the forums. However, she would like me to do it when it doesn’t take away from our time. So, while she is at work, I will be able to read some posts and possibly write some. I do have lots of things that need to be done around the house and yard, not to mention vehicle maintenance. The forum activity will be lowest on the priority list.

Many years ago, while I was still involved with pornography, we lived near a nudist beach. Several times I asked her if she wanted to go. She was very upset that I would ask and said absolutely not. She actually wanted to go but didn’t think it was a good thing for me, knowing my pornography addiction. In our discussions of late she shared this with me. She also shared that she would, in fact, like to experience social nudity and visit some CO or nudist beaches. However, she won’t do it if she thinks I am still doing the pornography. So, she would like to see how I do, over time. With that said, she will be accepting my challenge to her. (I challenged her to agree to us spending a weekend, together, at a Family Nudist Resort) She also wants to come up with a new challenge for me as she now thinks the first one to be a little punitive in nature.

What does all this mean? First of all she has agreed to go to a CO or nudist resort, with me, this summer. She would also like to go to a CO or nudist beach. She really wants it to be in Hawaii. (Me too! :wink: ) We have decided that we will search for the right resort, together. We will have to wait until mid to late summer as the temperatures in this part of the country are still pretty chilly in early summer and we can only do it on a weekend as she has no vacation time built up, yet.

I want to thank all of you who lifted us up in prayer! It is amazing how fast God brought about a resolution.

Don - NM57
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Re: Leaving the Village

Postby natman » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:05 pm

NakedMan57 wrote:Now that she knows that the Christian-Naturist forums have helped me, considerably, she has no problem with me resuming my participation in the forums.


Don, this is WONDERFUL news. I hope that other wives get this message.

NakedMan57 wrote:However, she would like me to do it when it doesn’t take away from our time. So, while she is at work, I will be able to read some posts and possibly write some. I do have lots of things that need to be done around the house and yard, not to mention vehicle maintenance. The forum activity will be lowest on the priority list.


I agree 100%. As wonderful as we are ( :D ), your wife, your family, your home, your friends, your job, your church and church fellowship should ALL take precident over spending time here. We enjoy your company, and who knows, perhaps some day your wife will join you here on line, but we do not want to be a part of ANYTHING that would put a crimp in your relationships... EVER!

NakedMan57 wrote:She also wants to come up with a new challenge for me as she now thinks the first one to be a little punitive in nature.


Perhaps she can challenge you to read all the way through Scripture with her and your kids this year. That is edifying, not punative, for the both of you. :D

NakedMan57 wrote:I want to thank all of you who lifted us up in prayer! It is amazing how fast God brought about a resolution.


That's because God is good all the time, and all the time, God is good.
SON-cerely,
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Re: Leaving the Village

Postby JimShedd112 » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:31 pm

Welcome back Don. I celebrate your great news. I also steer away from being on here or other sites when my wife is home. However, I probably actually do spend too much time here and ignore other things which need to be done. My wife, too, believes I'm addicted to pornography, assuming it's why I love to be naked and want her to do so as well. Last year she'd mention the fact I might be seen by the neighbors. My response was so what, I hope they do.

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