The role of nudity in bonding parents and children-same sex

[natman]

I was going to recommend a trip to Europe, including the south of France, Spain and Crete, where family oriented naturism are far more practiced and accepted than here in the US. Also some of the Scandinavian countries are big on familial nudity, particularly in the form of family-sauna time.

[Ramblinman]

Thank you for the encouragement, Ramblinman. My fear you know is that God will only let me marry when I'm in my 50's if I ever do get married. I'm far from perfect and just how perfect should I be until I do get a gf who will become my wife? That is one of the questions/concerns that I have. Will I ever know a woman, not just sexually but intimately, and stick with her until the day either of us dies or Christ comes?

Bobby,

The overwhelming majority of times, God does not ask us to wait that long.
If he does, he will give you the patience you need and the time will pass quickly.
Moses was a total failure in Egypt and found himself a fugitive, at a lonesome oasis in the desert with nothing but the clothes on his back. God needed to break Moses to total humility and reliance on him.
Moses was extra stubborn and God needed a lot of time with him, but the final result was amazing!
And Moses met a dark and lovely woman from that desert tribe and they had two fine sons.
It was no accident, all part of God's plan.

And when you have girlfriend and later a wife, you will try your best, but sometimes will do something to disappoint her. Then if she loves Jesus, she will forgive you and help you in your efforts to do better.
And at other times you will stand strong for her when she is weak and needs help.
The kissing and making up after these times of forgiveness is too awesome for words.
God will show you when you are ready to go out on a date with his daughter!

[MtnDewNudist]

Finding a good woman to marry is the easiest part. Staying with her the rest of your life is the hard part. However it is also a choice. Many who face difficult times and issues give up and "choose" to leave instead of working through the problems. If you view marriage as a life long or eternal endeavor then it makes it easier to keep going and fight through the tough times.

If you trust in God and follow His will instead of your own He will guide you to the right person at the right time. I constantly tell folks who are dating that they need to become the type of person they want to marry. Simply put a womanizing man who spends lots of time at the bar cannot expect to marry a good woman who will be a good stay at home mother. If you view a woman who is hard working as important then be hard working yourself, if you view higher level of education as important then get it yourself. People tend to marry in the same class/level that they are at.

Good luck.

[Bobby]

Your responses are very encouraging. Thank you.

[JimShedd112]

Bobby, this subject was long "silent" and although I read every post when it was active I never posted a response. I gues I felt I had nothing at all to contribute. However, looking at it with fresh eyes this morning I noticed how you referenced father-son relationships but never mentioned father-daughter even once in terms of your own future. First, do you not desire to have a daughter(s)?

If you do have a daughter or daughters would you then want to avoid nudity in her/their presence althogether? Do you believe such a relationship would be wrong?

Would you hope your wife/daughter(s) would have the same kind of relationship your own mother and sister enjoy? Also, how would you feel about your wife/son(s) sharing nudist experiences together?

In my own opinion, non-sexual family nudism is a wonderful idea for all concerned. I believe it does/would resolve many of the issues we see occur daily in society where boys and young men don't know how to treat the opposite sex with proper respect. Of course I'm not writing from personal experience since I only became a nudist about three years ago (60 years old) and far too late to share this wonderful sense of freedom and well being with my own young family.

Jim

[Bobby]

First, do you not desire to have a daughter(s)?

If you do have a daughter or daughters would you then want to avoid nudity in her/their presence althogether? Do you believe such a relationship would be wrong?

Would you hope your wife/daughter(s) would have the same kind of relationship your own mother and sister enjoy? Also, how would you feel about your wife/son(s) sharing nudist experiences together?

Good questions, Jim. Yes, I would like to have daughters and would like us to be comfortable being nude in each others' presence. I do wish for my wife and daughters to have the same kind of relationship with each other as my mom and sister have. And I am quite okay with my wife and son(s) being nude in front of each other.

The reason why I don't concern myself about nudity with daughters is because it depends on my wife's input. I really won't mind being nude in front of and with my daughters as I feel that nudity binds a family together. It's something that the family shares that others do not share (so readily) with them. I feel as if I would have control over my relationship with my son(s) while I will have less control over my relationship with my daughter(s) because of the role my wife will play in the whole dynamic.

Generally, fathers and daughters have good relationships. They are their fathers' little princesses. So, I am not too concerned over my relationship with my daughter(s) if it is God's will that I should have some one day. I know that I will do my utmost to be close to my daughter(s) and let them know how much I love them and how much God loves them.

My sons are my concern because I don't want them to travel the road I have traveled, to succumb to the temptations of pornography and be insecure about their bodies and masculinity.

[JimShedd112]

Thanks for your very clear and reasoned answers Bobby. I do wish you the best in finding the family relationship you seek.

Jim

[Bobby]

Thank you, Jim.

I thought about my parenting philosophy and came to the question of "how do you ensure that you are successful in teaching what you set out to teach your children?"

Let me give some background. I read some threads on parental nudity especially that of the father. Most people said agreed that seeing their dad naked had no negative impact on their lives, in fact, it reinforced a positive body image and confidence and opened the way to talk about puberty, sexuality, and relationships. Some people (mostly women) said that they started feeling uncomfortable from the age of 7 for some and the ages of 13 & 15 for others at seeing their dad's naked. One woman believes that the one time she saw her dad naked scared her for life. Most of the men said that they appreciated seeing their dad naked because they saw how they would mature in addition to the other benefits already stated.

Here are a couple of questions that I came from my contemplation session that I would like you to help me find answers to:

1. What do you do when your daughter or son starts feeling uncomfortable interacting with you nude? Do you continue being nude regardless of what your child feels?
2. What do you do when your wife is uncomfortable with you going nude in front of and/or with your children once they reach a certain age?
3. How do you instill body confidence in your children successfully without your actions having the opposite effect?
4. How do you handle your toddler's fascination with your anatomy?

[Jon-Marc]

I have two daughters (aged 39 and 42), and they don't want to see me nude. I don't believe I would have a problem with it.

[JimShedd112]

My 38 year old daughter, who respects the fact I'm a nudist, has said she does not want to see me nude. But, if it does happen from time to time we neither one make an issue of it. She doesn't want me to go nude in front of the 13-month old, primarily out of fear once she begins to talk she might tell others grandpa goes naked, leading to visits from CPA. At least those are my daughter's thoughts.

Of course, my wife thinks it would simply be wrong for my daughter to see me naked and tells me the daughter doesn't want to see me nude.

Jim

[Ramblinman]

Jim,

I am not going to mince words. You are a good man fighting a brave fight, but you are up against years of indoctrination that large numbers of women are raised with. It passes from mother to daughter down through the generations.

Would it help if I became your son-in-law?

I am not saying that you won't have some success, but it is a long struggle.
Patience and persistence are not mutually exclusive concepts.

If it is any consolation, some women do escape indoctrination, I've met some!