Pat Robertson says Nudity on TV May Not Be Wrong After All

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Pat Robertson says Nudity on TV May Not Be Wrong After All

Postby natman » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:23 pm

Here's and interesting video clip of Pat Robertson on TV nudity....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8WIaEoA_98
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Re: Pat Robertson says Nudity on TV May Not Be Wrong After A

Postby jasenj1 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:19 pm

From the comments: "Pat wrote in one of his books about 30 years ago that simple nudity is not sin. He backed it with lots of Scripture."

Anyone know what book? And/or have a quote from it?
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Re: Pat Robertson says Nudity on TV May Not Be Wrong After A

Postby prairieboy » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:09 am

I liked Pat 35 years ago when I read SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS. I have not followed him too closely since, but I like him even better after watching the clip.
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Re: Pat Robertson says Nudity on TV May Not Be Wrong After A

Postby Petros » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:44 am

Takes me back [he's getting on a bit] to when a colleague talking in the hallway opined that the worst possible outcome for the world would be the disaster of Pat Robertson becoming president. He would certainly agree with the web decription "amateur Nostradamus impersonator and otherwise horrible human Pat Robertson".

Over the years my main assessment is that he is a bit scattergun - his dicta are not excessively internally consistent. His statements on nudity here are fine - their impact I cannot assess - but it is striking that he goes into that and only minimally responds to the question. I for one would need to know, what is the actual content of the program? How does she know the pastor watches it? Has she seen the show enough to evaluate the alleged pornographic content? Why would it justify condemnation and shunning?

But you gets what you pays for, and the format does not permit serious discussion.
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Re: Pat Robertson says Nudity on TV May Not Be Wrong After A

Postby JimShedd112 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:21 am

Good for Pat Robertson for standing up to the fact nudity is NOT pornographic, rather it's what's in one's mind which determines whether something is pornographic or not, similar to the Supreme Court Justice who many years i the past now said something to the effect he could not define pornography but knew it when he saw it, meaning it's in the eye of the beholder.

We all know some programs, printed media, etc are created for the purpose of inciting sexual thoughts with either graphic displays of sex acts or strong hints toward creating such thoughts in the mind of the beholder but not all nudity is pornographic, as we all know.

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Re: Pat Robertson says Nudity on TV May Not Be Wrong After A

Postby nakedpreacher » Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:15 pm

it is funny, I have been listening to the back episodes of the Naturist Living Show podcast and heard Pat Robertson's name used as an example of Religious Right Moralists (I think it was Judy Williams In Oct 2009). This was certainly a surprise to me to hear him say that. It does not convince me to a greater extent of the truth naturism is good, but it does raise Pat Robertson at least one notch in my eyes that he was willing to say it on T.V. With his audience (yes I am speaking in gross generalizations) he could potentially taken a lot of heat for such a statement. I always admire those who are willing to speak what they believe to be truth at great cost to themselves. I admire them even if I disagree with them (it goes without saying that in this case I agree.) It does raise the question of how do we get the message out to Christians that the human body is good and not pornographic, and secondly to the naturist community that Christians are not monolithic in their prudery.
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Re: Pat Robertson says Nudity on TV May Not Be Wrong After A

Postby jasenj1 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:03 pm

[quote="Petros"]Over the years my main assessment is that he is a bit scattergun - his dicta are not excessively internally consistent.[/quote]

Agreed. Pat strikes me as a person who should have hung up his spurs many years ago and settled into writing memoirs, doing speaking engagements, and playing with the grandkids.

In the question asked is the sentence "Even secular critics have called it pornographic." Now, I'm all for non-sexual nudity - like in Naked & Afraid - but "pornographic" implies strong sexual content, not just simple nudity. Pat acts like he didn't hear that portion of the question, like he heard "nudity" and started building his answer. Then at the end he says "some of them are real nasty." OK. The question set up that this is a "nasty" one. Answer from there.

It's like he started answering, while answering he parsed the rest of the question, and then at the end tried to answer the last half of the question.
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Re: Pat Robertson says Nudity on TV May Not Be Wrong After A

Postby prairieboy » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:32 pm

nakedpreacher wrote:I always admire those who are willing to speak what they believe to be truth at great cost to themselves


As a new Christian, Pat felt called by God to sell all that he had, give to the poor, and follow God. Although he was a successful young lawyer, with a wife who was not a believer, he obeyed
God's call on his life. Great cost to himself? Certainly. I don't know the particulars of his life since then, and yes, sometimes he seems to have passed his best before date, but I can only judge on the outward appearance.

"Secular critics" think a three year old's naked buttocks are pornographic. I see shows that have warnings of nudity, often just a butt cheek. Other shows that are "okay" have everything in them except nudity.
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Re: Pat Robertson says Nudity on TV May Not Be Wrong After A

Postby nakedpreacher » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:03 am

I think that the big issue in Pat's mind (although I can not say for sure what his thoughts were) was that this person would no longer place themselves under the authority of the pastor. I think that this over reaction by the writer of the letter is what he first responded to. the response of the writer was not biblical. they were in effect shunning the pastor when they had not followed biblical instruction regarding a brother in sin. was it sin or not?, that had not yet been established. Basically I think that what he was trying to say was that the should continue to attend bible study until they had addressed the issue with him and established that this was in fact sin, then return with a brother, etc. as the bible dictates. the point that I think that he was trying to get across was that just because the program contained nudity, does not necessarily mean that the pastor was in sin. once again very perceptive on Pat's part and I applaud him for it.
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