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Re: Nudists could soon be allowed to get naked in Paris

Postby Petros » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:56 am

It was not a rape [though I cannot swear that might not have come] but I have a scar where I was it [typo - I do not actually drop my haitches] with a machete-like object while trying to stop three men who came out of the bushes as Wee Coryl and i were walking home. She got a nasty bruise on the arm but was luckily wearing a heavy jacket. I was trying to beat them off with a folding umbrella.

After an all too long few minutes the attackers fled - because there was the nucleus of a crows fathering and the attackers knew if that reached critical mass they would be caught and killed.

This happened before guns became prevalent in the area. Had they been armed with more than a machete, and had the crowd and I had no firearms - I can only imagine the outcome.
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Re: Nudists could soon be allowed to get naked in Paris

Postby MountainDog » Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:38 pm

Jim wrote:And don't forget about 1 in 5 women are raped in the U.S. It's a world-wide problem.


Feminist propaganda. This all mostly part of the trend on the part of feminists in American Universities to harass male students. The one in five stuff has been used even by the head of the current regime. This has led to many young men having their civil rights violated and many have sued universities and have won their lawsuits. Many cases have involved "regret" sex, poor decision making while drinking (of course, the guy who had been drinking will be 100% responsible for any decisions), and even situations where women have been coerced months later by their feminist friends that they were raped even though their text message trail showed a friendship after the said event. Won't even bother going into those guys who decide to break up with someone!

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Re: Nudists could soon be allowed to get naked in Paris

Postby Jim » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:18 am

MountainDog wrote:Feminist propaganda. This all mostly part of the trend on the part of feminists in American Universities to harass male students.

Of the women I know well enough to know their experiences, I'd say 1 in 5 is probably low. It is not about universities or students, this is about society in general. I believe the minimizing of the problem does a great disservice to all those who have been raped and sexually abused. How does it show Christian love to say "propaganda" to those who have suffered (and often are continuing to suffer)? I know propaganda has the meaning to spread ideas and information to help or hurt a cause, and feminists are some of those who spread this information, so you are technically correct. But propaganda usually has the connotation these days of being false or misleading, wrong.
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Re: Nudists could soon be allowed to get naked in Paris

Postby jochanaan » Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:19 pm

My experiences are similar to yours, Jim. Every woman I have known on a more than casual basis (except for my sisters, and they are blessed) has confessed to being molested on some level. My lady Tammie suffered the sort of abuse you read about in Stephen King and worse. And remember, this is only the number of women who have admitted to being raped or molested. There are probably many more who simply haven't admitted it--yet. :cry:
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Re: Nudists could soon be allowed to get naked in Paris

Postby Ramblinman » Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:54 pm

I wish I had better access to that park in Paris. I would love to enjoy a summer day there, tossing a Frisbee with a friend or a faithful dog, enjoying a picnic lunch, maybe have a swim.
Nothing that any other park goer doesn't do, but with the added comfort that comes from setting clothes aside to embrace the elements undiluted, undiminished.

Guys, let's not argue the exact statistics. One woman molested or raped is one too many.
Let's create a place of sanctuary where women and men can fellowship in a respectful community and everyone can be confidently naked as often as possible with no shame nor fear.
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Re: Nudists could soon be allowed to get naked in Paris

Postby jochanaan » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:17 pm

Ramblinman wrote:...Guys, let's not argue the exact statistics. One woman molested or raped is one too many.
Let's create a place of sanctuary where women and men can fellowship in a respectful community and everyone can be confidently naked as often as possible with no shame nor fear.

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Re: Nudists could soon be allowed to get naked in Paris

Postby Petros » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:42 pm

I have not - that I know of - known anyone who was raped. I have known a few who could legitimately claim abuse - though not all would.

I have also heard a reliable report - through my sister, who knew the person involved - of a woman who in a series of East coast cities, including DC and NY, was raped 7 times as of when I heard the story.

We have an oversexed society with no center, little community. It is by no means all propaganda.
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Re: Nudists could soon be allowed to get naked in Paris

Postby New_Adventurer » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:29 pm

And how did we get such an oversexed society? I agree with the viewpoint that hiding the body just makes people more curious about it, which leads to guys trying to force women to do their bidding.
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Re: Nudists could soon be allowed to get naked in Paris

Postby jochanaan » Mon Oct 10, 2016 12:36 pm

New_Adventurer wrote:And how did we get such an oversexed society? I agree with the viewpoint that hiding the body just makes people more curious about it, which leads to guys trying to force women to do their bidding.
Entitlement is a big reason. A variety of agents (peers' boasting, television and movies, pornography, rhetoric like the "locker-room talk" of a current Presidential candidate) condition boys and young men to think they are entitled to sex. And, sadly, rhetoric from certain Christian leaders and organizations about men being the "head" of women feeds into this sense of entitlement. I've read that Bill Gothard has been accused of forcing young women in his organization to give him sexual favors. :shock: :x
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Re: Nudists could soon be allowed to get naked in Paris

Postby Petros » Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:04 pm

I cannot speak on friend Gothard, but I know of the ever so evangelical shepherding pastor of a church Herself's family was involved in.

All power corrupts .... and many of the corrupt covet power and get it.
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Re: Nudists could soon be allowed to get naked in Paris

Postby Ramblinman » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:42 pm

jochanaan wrote:...And, sadly, rhetoric from certain Christian leaders and organizations about men being the "head" of women feeds into this sense of entitlement....

I also support a doctrine of headship, but in a very, very limited sense.
As I understand the scriptures, they teach that within the context of marriage, a man is the head of his family, but only to the extent that he is under the authority of Jesus.
And the example of Christ for a husband is one of servant leadership, not a dictator.

I am NOT the head of any of the women in my church, NOR the head of someone else's wife or daughter.
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Re: Nudists could soon be allowed to get naked in Paris

Postby nakedpreacher » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:18 pm

Ramblinman wrote:I am NOT the head of any of the women in my church, NOR the head of someone else's wife or daughter.


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Re: Nudists could soon be allowed to get naked in Paris

Postby jochanaan » Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:55 pm

Ramblinman wrote:...And the example of Christ for a husband is one of servant leadership, not a dictator.
Indeed, and that is a verse on which I have yet to hear many sermons. :roll:
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